WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
38%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



Swiss. 3:39 Sun Jul 23
Re: Who's your favourite Russian?
Rasputin was an absolute cunt of a person. A rapist and paedo. Suits some on here I guess.

Far Cough 3:33 Sun Jul 23
Re: Who's your favourite Russian?
BubblesCyprus 2:43 Sun Jul 23
Re: Who's your favourite Russian?
Lev Yashin great goalkeeper

YES

The Black Spider

muskie 3:08 Sun Jul 23
Re: Who's your favourite Russian?
Anna Kournikova

Mikhail Bulgakov

Rasputin

BubblesCyprus 2:43 Sun Jul 23
Re: Who's your favourite Russian?
Lev Yashin great goalkeeper

Swiss. 2:08 Sun Jul 23
Re: Who's your favourite Russian?
. Olga Kurlyenko is Ukrainian so big faux pas there. She’s married to an Englishman as is Milla Jovovich also Ukrainian. They love us.

yngwies Cat 1:34 Sun Jul 23
Re: Who's your favourite Russian?
The one what Boney M wrote a tune about...

Hammer and Pickle 1:32 Sun Jul 23
Re: Who's your favourite Russian?
Yup Nagal - meant Conrad’s publications of course. The pre-internet equivalent of pixel-botherer par excellence, was Conrad. Absolute cunt of a read.

Nagel 1:18 Sun Jul 23
Re: Who's your favourite Russian?
FC, I read One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich when I was at school but I don't remember it too well. I like Gogol, Lermontov, Turgenev, and some of Gorki and Chekhov. Can't stand Tolstoy though.

H&P, expect that's true of Conrad. I think at that time most novels were published in magazine form, probably went on up until the time that mass printing of paperbacks came in.

Hammer and Pickle 1:09 Sun Jul 23
Re: Who's your favourite Russian?
I seem to recall that was the case with Conrad’s original publication, or am I wrong?

Far Cough 1:08 Sun Jul 23
Re: Who's your favourite Russian?
Nagel, what's your opinion of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's works?

Nagel 1:06 Sun Jul 23
Re: Who's your favourite Russian?
Yeah, I don't know if it was literally by the word, but mostly his works were originally published serially in magazines, so the longer they were the more money he'd get. The Brothers Karamazov was first published monthly over the course of almost 2 years.

Hammer and Pickle 12:53 Sun Jul 23
Re: Who's your favourite Russian?
Really? I did not know that!

Sometimes WHO delivers, it really does.

Nagel 12:47 Sun Jul 23
Re: Who's your favourite Russian?
Fair enough. Dostoevsky probably did use more words than he needed to but he always had a lot of gambling debts and he got paid by the word, so...

Hammer and Pickle 12:25 Sun Jul 23
Re: Who's your favourite Russian?
That’s a great point and I accept it Nagel.

However, whatever the translation, neither Dostoevsky nor Tolstoy meet my basic need for flow and content. As I say, it’s all far too dense - too many words and not enough really going on. Same problem with Conrad and, of course, Proust.

Willtell 11:40 Sun Jul 23
Re: Who's your favourite Russian?
Used to be Sobranie Black.

Probably banned now as being racist or something but very trendy at the time...

Mike Oxsaw 11:14 Sun Jul 23
Re: Who's your favourite Russian?
Don't argue with teacher - he nose (NOSE) best.

Nagel 10:20 Sun Jul 23
Re: Who's your favourite Russian?
Hammer and Pickle 8:14 Fri Jul 21

That quote is from the Constance Garnett translation. All her translations of Dostoevsky are terrible, especially the longer novels. There are plenty of better translations around these days but hers still get bandied about because they're over 100 years old and so in the public domain.

To be fair, Brothers Karamazov is a bit heavy going with a lot of digressions, but The Idiot, Demons, Crime and Punishment, the Gambler, The Eternal Husband and Notes from Underground are all a breeze to read through (in a decent translation).

northbanker 1:14 Sun Jul 23
Re: Who's your favourite Russian?
He was Georgian, same thing.

riosleftsock 1:07 Sun Jul 23
Re: Who's your favourite Russian?
Shevardnedze was not Russian. Not sure about some of the others either.

northbanker 1:03 Sun Jul 23
Re: Who's your favourite Russian?
1. Konstantin Rokossovskiĭ
2. Olga Kurlyenko
3 Aleksandr Chivadze
4. Yuri Djorkaeff
5. Eduard Shevardnadze

Boycie 9:25 Sat Jul 22
Re: Who's your favourite Russian?
The famous three testicled long jumper Oojanika Bolokof

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